Mancini - Part of the problem or part of the solution?

[Eric, Dutch]

Let him stay and let him build.........How many years did it take The Purple Nosed Bully to win the league?????

I think managers do need time to build. Especially when, like at City, due to the enormous financial boost from Abu Dabi, there was going to be a turnover in every division at the club nowhere to be seen. Over the many years I supported City I've seen managers come and go, getting rid of the players the formers brought in and bringing in their own players, skinning our club to the bone and making sure we kept far away from sustained succes. Now the turnover has passed it's critical point, we need stabillity like never before. Mancini was the choice of the new owners and from that moment I just hoped it would turn out to be the right choice and that they would give him enough time to keep any progress going. Yes, I have been critical at Mancini for a couple of months last season. And rightly so because things weren't going well, we played too defensively and it seemed new players weren't improving rather getting worse. I am a fan and I am allowed to be critical when a manager of player doesn't perform. But never once I talked about sacking Mancini, nor did I talked about successors because I just wanted to have the experience as a fan to see a manager do what he feels is right over a longer period. And I'm pretty sure most City-fans can see this and want Mancini to stay.

[ob1]

I've always said Bobby deserves another season but that what he deserves cannot be the prime consideration; however, any case for removing him has weakened significantly but a week remains a long time in football and two weeks could be an eternity. Something that I think has been significant in last few weeks is that Mancini has successfully brought Tevez back into the fold and has demonstrated that he seems to know what his best side is. I still think Micah is our most talented right back but I think Bobby is going with Zab's greater experience and intelligence. It will be interesting to see if Bobby makes any changes for the Newcastle game: I wouldn't.

[chopper]

Good tactics by the manager labelling Swansea an easy game for the rags.......I think Rodgers provided the response that RM was looking for, now if the Swansea players follow suit we may even claim the title this weekend

Yeah, I know OB, one game at a time

Yeah I know Peej the rags are gonna win all their games , but nothing wrong with dreaming . In all seriousness though I do expect the Swans to cause them some problems, just like the toon will do to us. These games will both have cup final atmosphere to them.

[PJS]

If we fk off Fairplay, Mancini can keep the job as long as he wants.

In a FFPR world, only sackable offence for Mancini is either failing to make the CL or we capitulate like we did under Sven.......(something we were on track to do after Arsenal but chose not to).......

We may make 2 or 3 CL finals in the next 10 years, but as long as we're thereabouts, i'll be happy........

But failing to get out of the groups is NOT AN OPTION NEXT SEASON!!

[ob1]

Barring something horrendous happening, I think winning the title should buy Bobby another two seasons i.e. coming close but not winning anything next year shouldn't be a sacking offence in of itself. Obviously if he won nothing and Jose won the UCL and then knocked on our door, it could get tricky. I prefer to think positively though and Bobby still looks to me like a man who can learn and develop as a manager. He did a fantastic job post Arsenal and carried himself with the kind of dignity that SAF could only dream of. The way that Bobby stopped rotating and went to the best eleven for the job was simple but elegant; many will say it was the obvious thing to do but how often do managers appear to miss the obvious? Right decision at the right time.

[Deano58]

Can't help but agree. Top 4 for me next season and see what we can do in the cups. The only sackable offence is not finishing in the top 4.

[Eric, Dutch]

If we keep progressing, we need not to worry. Even if we weren't able to buy anyone and other could, we will still finish top 4 and challenge for the title. Since Mancini came in we progressed. Some things progressed fastly, some needed time (this is where my impacience came in somewhere in 2010). I notice automatisms because of the fact players play together for long periods of time knowing what the manager likes to see. The youth set-up is vastly progressing and maybe needs even more acceleration now we've won the title. This can be done if we keep the managementteam together and keep building around the core of the team. That's what can give a club sustained succes. And with the back-up by the owner(s) we will always have the possibillity to enter the transfermarket. The future is shiny bright and blue!

[chopper]

Mancini will get a two year deal {added to his current 12 months} for about 8 mil p/s,

[bluemoon risin',]

Mancini will get a two year deal {added to his current 12 months} for about 8 mil p/s,

A vastly improved contract to Mancini should not be needed IMO as he is already handsomely paid as it is. Maybe a 10-20% rise should be enough for him to put pen to paper to extend to a 3 yr deal i think, as we cannot afford to squander money unnecessairily on wages and transfer fees as the full implications of the fair play rules will soon kick in.

[chopper]

Mancini will get a two year deal {added to his current 12 months} for about 8 mil p/s,

A vastly improved contract to Mancini should not be needed IMO as he is already handsomely paid as it is. Maybe a 10-20% rise should be enough for him to put pen to paper to extend to a 3 yr deal i think, as we cannot afford to squander money unnecessairily on wages and transfer fees as the full implications of the fair play rules will soon kick in.

BMR.....My comment wasn`t what I thought he should be getting but what I think the club will offer. I agree with your thoughts.